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T-Rex 800 Pro DFC, first flight crash after fast roll oscillating

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@webmotions wrote:

Mechanic: T-Rex 800 Pro DFC with stock components.
FMU: Pixhack from CUAV
Software: Arducopter 3.3.3

After a few Seconds and only a few centimeters off ground, the Helicopter began to oscillate very fast on roll, so that the main blades impacted...
Could somebody take a look to my log file what was going wrong? And please help me with good PID Values for 3.3.3 on a Stock T-Rex 800 Pro DFC?



The mechanic is built very well and was also in the air with a Skookum Robotics and a DJI Wookon H. I have also built a few small and large multicopters with Pixhawk, but it is my first Helicopter with Ardupilot/Pixhawk...

Many thanks and excuse my bad english :wink:
Joa

P.S. Ups! How can i upload a Log? It is not allowed...

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FPV over telemetry

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@lahva wrote:

hello!! I need help with my hardware configuration. I have one F550 APM 2.6 drone with basic parts. So.... I want buy telemetry and i need know - can i make somehow FPV over telemetry ?? I want start using TOWER app and i dont want buying single parts for FPV (Monitor, radio, etc...)

And next what i need. Is this telemetry applicable ? (http://1url.cz/gtKbc)

I will welcome all advice.

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X, y and z in phase vibration on trex 450

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@michelzrk wrote:

Hi guys!

I am working on setting up ArduCopter on my Trex 450 Pro V2 (KX015080AT). After tunning the gains I could fly it on Stabilize mode. But before turning on Loiter mode I decided to check the IMU for any vibration.

I found out there is an intense vibration (-5/+5 m/s/s) on X and Y axis. But what I found most intereting is that X, Y and Z axis vibration are in phase. Check bellow:

Figure1;

After replacing both main rotor and tail rotor shafts I still see the same vibration. I also replaced some torque-tube gears and bearings, but no success. Later, I found out that when the tail rotor blades are removed, the vibration gets really low and not phased anymore.

Figure2;

So, I got new tail rotor blades. Carbon fiber ones, this time. I still get the vibration, but less intense (-3/+3 m/s/s). But at this time, not as in phase as before.

Figure3;

I have tried many different mounting tapes. They all gave me similar results. The APM is positioned just under the main shaft.

I am still not confident to fly like this, since there is a problem that I can't point out its roots. It looks like to me it is a structural response. To test for that, I disconnected the tail boom braces (those long arms that connect the tail boom and the botton of the fuselage to make the set more rigid). The results are bellow:

Figure4;

I got the vibration frequency a little lower and the intensity a little higher. So, it looks like to me there's some kind of structure involved in this problem that is being excited at 45deg from the three axis. I could guess it's the tail boom :slight_smile:

So guys, does anyone ever noticed this on a traditiona heli? Is this normal? Or it is just my 450 that is having this level of vibration at this frequency in all axis? I have no more ideia of what to test. Please anyone help!

Cheers!
Michel Z.




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Trex 450 need help

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@ivank wrote:

Greetings to all
I was wondering can someone with experience can take look at my PID settings.
Heli hovers great in stabilize mode but when i make right yaw stick input tail bounces and with left stick imput its stops dead on.
I hope this make sense to you,sorry for bad english


2016-04-23 18-52-52.bin.dxf (278.4 KB)
To view log delete the .dxf suffix

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GX9 high speed tests in AUTO

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@tridge wrote:

Hi Rob,
We got the GX9 to 32m/s maximum speed in AUTO today. Logs are here:
http://uav.tridgell.net/GX9/2016-04-25/30.BIN
The final step to getting rid of the pull-ups in the turns was to reduce ANGLE_MAX. It was at 30 degrees previously, and at that angle the motor starts to really bog down as it tries to hold altitude at maximum collective. By reducing that to 22 degrees it flew much more smoothly and had much better turns.
We think we can get a bit more speed by tuning the engine a bit and fitting a new carbie that should generate a bit more power.
We did have a problem during the landing approach. The heli was tuning for high speed runs with WPNAV_ACCEL at 900. On the low speed landing approach at 4m/s it started overshooting the desired position as it used too agressive accelerations. It ended up backtracking a bit while approaching the landing point and we switched to stabilize to land it.
Getting the right tuning for both high speed flight and gentle landing approaches is something we need to work some more on.
Cheers, Tridge

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T-rex550L modified 600E CUAV Pixhack Stable Loiter

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@zhangsir wrote:

My T-rex550L modified 600mm main rotor, 6s battery power, based debugging after the third flight, the state is relatively stable, PID also requires more detailed debugging.

Test Video

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RX+Pixhawk+FBL How to connect ?

Switching to loiter causes the baro to drop 10 meters

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@Jman841 wrote:

I am using a Logo 690sx in traditional helicopter and had tested and flown in stabilize, loiter, and auto in the past without issues. Yesterday I flew it and when I switched to loiter the helicopter went to full pitch climb. After taking the blades off and running some tests, it seems that whenever I swtich to loiter, the altitude reads -10 meters and slowly comes back up causing the EKF to go crazy.

I do not know what has changed or why switching to loiter causes the baro to go crazy.

Any ideas?

Here's the Tlog

https://www.dropbox.com/s/47fkqy07ktnj68j/2016-05-12%2014-33-10.tlog?dl=0

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Arducopter 3.4 TradHeli Support

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@Rob_Lefebvre wrote:

Hello all, I just want to make it clear, I am no longer able to support TradHeli releases starting with AC3.4. This has occurred because of 3DR discontinuing support of AC development, which has required me to devote my efforts to commercial support for other companies, which unfortunately has not included TradHeli to this point. Hopefully at some point I can find the time to focus on TradHeli again. I have actually had to officially resign as lead developer for TradHeli as I take the responsibility to deliver reliable and stable code very seriously, and I just don't have the time to look after this at this point. In the past, this has required substantial commitment of time and money, which I just can't support without funding from external sources.

I'm not sure what the status of AC3.4 for TradHeli is at the moment, but there have been a number of foundational changes that have gone in for multirotors which will have an effect on helicopters, and am aware of several issues which could cause crashes, or even unsafe bench-testing, so please be careful. One of these issue is that the Ch8 Output for the ESC is no longer functioning properly, and I'm concerned about the possibility of an inadvertent motor start. Please be sure to remove all blades and keep your fingers clear of the drivetrain if bench testing.

AC3.4 is supposed to go into Beta testing soon, I'm not sure if this includes TradHeli or not.

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APM 2.7 Trex 450 fly bar serious up / down oscillating and crash

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@keeyen wrote:

Anticipating venture into traditional heli as a main VTOL machine, I learn to set up my old Trex 450 with APM 2.7. I manage to set the rate roll / pitch and yaw and use other parameter as per manual. I manage to get it hover in stabilized mode. When I switch to Alt Hold mode, the model spin up as I activate the switch, I advance the throttle / pitch over 50 %, nothing change or happen, as I continue to advance the throttle, to a point where the heli start to lift off, immediately it goes up and down violently and the main blade pull off from the blade holder within seconds and crash.
As I'm completely new in traditional heli, I'm not sure what parameter control this behavior and the manual seems do not offer more info in this area.
Any help will be much appreciate. Thanks

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Trex 250 with APM

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@zcemsia wrote:

Hi guys, Im a newbie to the apm platform, and have run into a few issues. Im using an apm 2.6 with v3.2, and mission planner 2.0 on mac osx. I have all the swash servos working however the elevator and pitch servos move in the wrong directions. I have all the movements in the radio calibration working in the right direction. Also when trying to do the accelerometer calibration it simply starts a count down from 40 seconds and gives no other prompts. Also I dont seem to have the full parameters or advanced options tab on the config tuning tab when the apm is connected.

Thanks, sorry for dumping all my question in one place.

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Heli servo output problems

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@ThomasH wrote:

Hello
I've started to setup a 450 and a 500 with APM 2.6. I think i've connected input and output correctly. Unfortunately I cannot get the input signals to move the correct servos. Ch2 - ele input is also moving the tail servo. Does anyone know if I have to change a setting in mission planer ?

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Rudder input affects swash

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@metori wrote:

Hi all. When I turning rudder stick on transmitter then swash plate turns lightly. All this in STABILIZE mode. There are no issues with swash in ACRO mode. Can't find anything relating to this in full parameter list.

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Motor Interlock Enabled

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@Usamah wrote:

Hello guys.

I am new to RC autopilot. I just finished building my GAUI X5 Helicopter and I am trying to integrated it with Pixhawk Autopilot. As I finished with all the calibration process, I found out that my Pixhawk is unable to arm for first flight test.

As soon as I powered on my Pixhawk and connect it with Mission Planner (as I am using Mission Planner as GCS), I try to arm the motor by holding the throttle down and rudder to the right, then my HUD window display this word, "Arm: Motor Interlock Enabled". My LED light display flashing green, in which according to the manual, it means that the Pixhawk is disarmed. I search what does mean by this Motor Interlock Enabled word, by I end up knowing nothing. I really don't know what that means.

I am using Stabilize flight mode when trying to arm the Pixhawk.

I am using:
- GAUI X5 Formula Helicopter
- Futaba T14SG Transmitter
- Futaba R7008SB Receiver
- 6S 5000mAh LiPo Battery
- Hobbywing Brushless ESC Platinum-100A-V3
- GUEC GM-601 Brushless Motor (1820W-910KV)

I really hope you guys can enlighten me with this problem. Appreciate your help.

Thanks..

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Unable to set the servo configuration, Help needed

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@Maaz wrote:

Hello,
I am using Pixhawk autopilot on a Raptor G4, fuel powered, Flybar system. The problem that i am facing is that i connected the servos in the "main out" of the servo rail in the following configuration as mentioned in the manual available at arducopter website (1-Aileron , 2-Elevator , 3- Collective Pitch , 4-Rudder , 8- Throttle ). But the problem is that servos are not behaving as they are supposed to, e.g the elevator is acting as pitch, moving the aileron control on the transmitter just moves 1 servo, the throttle servo is not working at channel 8 . Moreover in the "radio calibration" option the channels there are also not behaving the way the are supposed to moving the pitch also moves the aileron.
I am using a Futaba transmitter and an SBUS Futaba receiver. Due to the above mentioned problem i changed the transmitter and the receiver I used a JR transmitter with a "JR RD921" receiver. The difference was that during "radio calibration" the transmitter was working absolutely fine but when i connected the servos according to the manual they were not moving and the same issue was there as mentioned above.
Kindly guide me if u can
Thanking in advance friend

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P9x v1.1(PX4v2 Mod) and SAB URUKAY 3 ArduPliot AC3.3.3 FW Loiter Mode success !

Downstream FBL controller from DIYDRONES blog post

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@InvertedCNC wrote:

Greetings!

I just stumbled upon this article on DIYDRONES about an RC pass through to allow use of a traditional FBL controller

http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/canberra-uav-demonstrates-helicopter-flight-with-downstream-fbl?id=705844%3ABlogPost%3A2210017&page=6#comments

@tridge @Rob_Lefebvre Where can I find more info about this firmware?

When in a nav mode does the Pixhawk still pass RC signals to the FBL controller in the same manner as a rx would?

I have long been interested in using a Pixhawk or the like as a companion nav computer for use with a standard FBL controller. This will definitely help get some influential users off the fence and return to using single rotors vs ridiculous heavy lift multis. I personally have a new build coming off the table soon and with what I have invested in time and manufacturing cost I'm not comfortable jumping straight to a pixhawk for the initial flight testing. Plus my pixhawk tuning skills are not nearly up to par when it comes to helis. I am much more comfortable with the flight behavior of a vbar or sk720 anyways.

Thanks
Eric

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Stock E-Sky Belt CP v2 with AMP 2.8 IS IT POSSIBLE!

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@ivant wrote:

Hello,

I've just repaired my Stock E-Sky Belt CP v2 with 6ch transmitter from crash. Now i want to use AMP 2.8 with ardupilot in stabilize or AltHold mode to assist me until i am learning to fly.
The heli has flybar (read some where the is a difference) and is all stock (ESC and servos).

And the question is is it possible and is there something special?
I've read the documentation but i want to be sure.

Thanks in advance to everyone who replies.

Best Regards,
Ivan

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700 class gasoline heli

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@hirochi_hirohiro wrote:

Controller Pixhawk(AC3.3.3)
GPS M8N
Telemetry Xbee(2.4GHz)
Engine OS-GT15HZ(25:1)
Throttle controller Futaba GV-1

Stabilize OK.
Alt Hold OK.
Loiter OK.
PosHold OK.
RTL OK.
Circle OK.
Auto OK.
ROI OK.

The above is confirmed.

Everyone throttle channel?

Loiter

Auto Mode

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450 heli multiblade with Apm 3.1

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